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TCA Issues with the FSLabs v.5.0.1.160 #481300

Basic Ticket Information
Ticket Status: Resolved
Department: Support
Create Date: 20/05/21 15:20
User Information
Name: Thomas Stemmer
Email: tstemmer@gmx.eu
Phone: 491721700146

Created by AvatarThomas Stemmer
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Thomas Stemmer posted TCA Issues with the FSLabs v.5.0.1.160

Dear Support,

 

I am in trouble with the TCA Quadrant. First of all, the last Version, which work properly is v5.1.0.126. Because I want to buy your new product, I am in Trouble with the new update since v.5.0.1.151… First: I read some similar Problems in the Forum, but it’s not the same. All Solutions provided there are not working for me.  

 

 

Whats the Problem?

 

Even, when I start the Airbus (saved in Cold & Dark Mode), this Buttons on my TCA-Quadrant doesn’t work:

 

  • Engine Selector 1 and 2
  • Enginge Mode Selector
  • Parking Brake
  • Rudder Trim
  • Gear

 

This functions works:

  • Flaps
  • Speed Brakes
  • Throttles
  • Sidestick (all Axis)

 

 

 

I used the new Firmware from Thrustmaster (1.57 for the Quadrant).

 

 

Workaround

 

All (!) Buttons, decribed above, works fine, when I reconfigure via the FSLabs-Input-Commants only one function, which is not working, e.g. the Parking Brake. I open the Input Event Keys, the ThrustMaster TCA Quadrant and set the ParkBrake with the same key, listet into the Buttons Assignment List (Change -> Switch the TCA-Parking Brake -> Close). That’s all.

 

After this Setting up only one (!) button, all the other Buttons (Selector 1+2, Mode Selector, Rudder Trim, Gear and .. of Course, the Parking Brake) work properly.

 

 

What else I noticed

 

When I delete the „FSL_A320X_Kbd“-File, start the Simulator and load FSLabs, I confirm the two Dialogs. In this session (and only in this one!) the keys works perfect! When I close the Simulator and start it again, I have the same issues described above.

 

 

What I have done to fix this issue on my System

 

  • Uninstall FSLabs (and Restart Computer)
  • Delete all FSLabs Folders
  • Install it again (and Restart Computer)
  • Confirm the TCA-Configurations (one for Stick, one for Qudarant)

 

 

My System:

  • P3Dv5.1 with the actual Hotfix
  • I9-9990K, 32GB, GTX2080TI, 1TB SDD for OS, 1TB SDD for P3D
  • FSLabs v.5.1.0.160 (installed in add-on-folder, „Documents“ in a separate (other) folder)
  • SideStick-Firmware: v1.06, Qudrant-Firmare: v1.57. All Buttons/Controls works proberly in the Control Panel.

 

 

My Profile (for identification purposes):

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I used the Forum, but nobody gave an answer about my Problems. So I try to use the support-mail .

 

Are you able to help me?

 

 

Best regards

Thomas   

 

 

 

 

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Norman Blackburn posted

Hallo Thomas!

Have you looked at https://forums.flightsimlabs.com/index.php?/topic/28997-thrustmaster-tca-officer-pack-and-add-on-installation-guide-tips/ ?  This was done by another forum member and seems to be detailed enough to have most people now working.

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Thomas Stemmer posted
Hi Norman,
 
thank you for your reply, your mail was stored into the spam-folder, but I was informed that you have answered ;-).
 
Yes, I know all relevant topics in your forum:
 
 
* Installation of the correct firmware: done 
* Configuratioin of the TCA-Quadrant (with Thrustmaster-Config): all buttons correct 
* P3D Controls: RAW Input: set and checked
* P3D Controls: Enable contollers: set and checked
* AXIS Assignments: all assignments cleared: checked
 
-> First checks: all done 
 
Interim status: Problem not solved
 
* Renaming FSL_A320X_Kbd.ini and restarting the Sim: done 
* First start: Confirmation of both Notes (Stick & Quadrant) - works! 
* P3D stopped - and wait ... 
* P3D restarted: Problem with the Quadrant is back
 
Status: Problem not solved.
 
 
As I have already written, this problem exists since version v.5.0.1.151. In Version v.5.0.1.126 this problem doesn't exist. 
 
Best regards
Thomas   
 
 
 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. Mai 2021 um 14:13 Uhr
Von: "Norman Blackburn"
An: "Thomas Stemmer"
Betreff: Re: TCA Issues with the FSLabs v.5.0.1.160 [#481300]
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Lefteris Kalamaras posted

Hello Thomas,

I know this might sound like a big pain in the behind, but can you please ensure you start with a clean P3D configuration? (no add-ons, except for our product).

When we confirm this works, we can start adding back your other addons to find out which one is causing the issue.

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Thomas Stemmer posted

Hi Support,

 

sorry, this is a big pain for me, because I finally have a stable simulator. I will switch back to v.5.0.1.126, if there is no other possibility.

 

What I have done is, to exclude all add-ons out of my sim via SimStarter NG. But this is also not working. What is funny: If I reconfigure only one (!) function (e.g. parking-brake) via FSLabs-Keyassignments, all the other buttons works. But that's annoying, then I'd rather do without new functions.

 

Best regards

Thomas 

 

 

From: FSLabs Support Help Desk
Sent: Montag, 24. Mai 2021 08:53
To: Thomas Stemmer
Subject: Re: TCA Issues with the FSLabs v.5.0.1.160 [#481300]

 

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Lefteris Kalamaras posted

Dear Thomas,

you can always remove all assignments from FSL's Input Controls UI dialog and assign them through P3D or FSUIPC - have you tried that?

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Thomas Stemmer posted

Hi FSLabs,

 

Thanks for your email. Is there a list of which hardware switches can be mapped to which function in the simulator via FSUIPC? I have the full version of FSUIPC.

 

F.e.: the Parking Brake is assigned to “CTRL+.” – but I don’ know, if there are (separate) functions for “Parking-Brake-Set” and “Parking-Brake-Released”?

 

Best regards

Thomas  

 

From: FSLabs Support Help Desk
Sent: Mittwoch, 26. Mai 2021 07:09
To: Thomas Stemmer
Subject: Re: TCA Issues with the FSLabs v.5.0.1.160 [#481300]

 

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Thomas Stemmer posted

Dear Support,

 

I have found a solution, which works with me. I am using the tool “SimStarter NG”, but it seems, that this is the problem. If I start P3D without this tool and load the FSLab-Aircraft, all buttons are working.

 

Thanks for your support. You can close the ticket.

 

Best regards
Thomas  

 

 

From: Thomas Stemmer
Sent: Mittwoch, 26. Mai 2021 12:12
To: FSLabs Support Help Desk
Subject: RE: TCA Issues with the FSLabs v.5.0.1.160 [#481300]

 

Hi FSLabs,

 

Thanks for your email. Is there a list of which hardware switches can be mapped to which function in the simulator via FSUIPC? I have the full version of FSUIPC.

 

F.e.: the Parking Brake is assigned to “CTRL+.” – but I don’ know, if there are (separate) functions for “Parking-Brake-Set” and “Parking-Brake-Released”?

 

Best regards

Thomas  

 

From: FSLabs Support Help Desk
Sent: Mittwoch, 26. Mai 2021 07:09
To: Thomas Stemmer
Subject: Re: TCA Issues with the FSLabs v.5.0.1.160 [#481300]

 

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Lefteris Kalamaras posted

Hi Thomas,

we are wondering what exactly breaks compatibility with SimStarter NG, but we always recommend starting Prepar3D the proper way.

Thank you for letting us know, we're closing this ticket now.

Closed by AvatarLefteris Kalamaras with status of Closed
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Thomas Stemmer posted
Hallo FS Labs,

sorry for not updating you in this issue. I think this was not the Simstarter, it was a problem with using the ´default´ aircraft. I know, that it is recommened not to use FSLabs as a default aircraft, but it works for a long time.

Last weekend I tried several SimStarts, but when I unchecked in the start menu of p3d, that fslab isn‘t the default aircraft and after reloading from a standard-aircraft the fslabs, all functions are working properly. 

Now it works. And - believe me - I never will set up a fslab aircraft as a default aircraft :-) 

Best regards 
Thomas


Am 31.05.2021 um 16:46 schrieb FSLabs Support Help Desk :


Reopened by SYSTEM
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Lefteris Kalamaras posted

Ah! yes, that's correct and will get you every time. In essence, P3D has an issue reloading code DLLs where it does not reinitialize properly. This dates back to FS9 code. Never been fixed.

Closed by AvatarLefteris Kalamaras with status of Resolved

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